Interview with Patrick Jagoda on Experimental Games

We talk with Patrick Jagoda (professor at University of Chicago, co-founder of the Game Changer Chicago Design Lab) about his new book Experimental Games: Critique, Play, and Design in the Age of Gamification. We discuss competitive versus cooperative games, gamification and neoliberal capitalism, battle royales, what it means for a game to work like a scientific experiment, augmented reality games, Patrick's game design ethos, and much more!